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2.5 mile chain and crane to examine bow damage?

Postby cubs27 » Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:38 am

Isnt it possible to construct a 2.5 mile chain and winch the bow up just enough to see the damage? ever been discussed?
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Re: 2.5 mile chain and crane to examine bow damage?

Postby Atlantic1912 » Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:05 am

I really don't know the answer to what you are asking, or if it's even possible to do as you suggest.

However, I really think the hull would likely suffer damage or accelerate the rate of collapse and decay to the bow if much sediment were disturbed.
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Re: 2.5 mile chain and crane to examine bow damage?

Postby Eric K. Longo » Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:49 am

Hi,

It is not a gash you'd find. This area has been side scanned already. If you did as suggested, how would you differentiate the damage from impact?

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Re: 2.5 mile chain and crane to examine bow damage?

Postby pat toms » Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:01 am

Eric Longo,The investigation of the titanic looks as if this will stop now with the unesco heritage site now being enforced a bit late now though,however I thing messing about with the wreck has already paid dividends in some cases and of course money,so the 2.5 chain may not be needed anyway.Pat
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Re: 2.5 mile chain and crane to examine bow damage?

Postby Countess » Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:25 pm

Eric K. Longo wrote:Hi,

It is not a gash you'd find. This area has been side scanned already. If you did as suggested, how would you differentiate the damage from impact?

Best wishes,
Eric

Did'nt Paul Matthias do that in anatomy of a disaster?
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Re: 2.5 mile chain and crane to examine bow damage?

Postby Ioannis Georgiou » Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:30 pm

Countess wrote:Did'nt Paul Matthias do that in anatomy of a disaster?


Yes, that was during the 1996 RMS Titanic Inc. wreck expedition.
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Re: 2.5 mile chain and crane to examine bow damage?

Postby VW1956 » Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:33 pm

Hello. It is certainly possible to construct a two and a half mile chain. There just might be one already in use for some thing else. And a winch is no problem. But how would you connect the chain to the bow and even if you did then as soon as you began to apply lift the chain would pull away from the bow. If you were lucky you might get some ructicles on the end of your chain. Just wondering how big the winch would have to be had it been possible to lift the bow. In case you didn't know. The bow is not resting on the sea bed but is seventy feet into the bottom. Ken.
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Re: 2.5 mile chain and crane to examine bow damage?

Postby Atlantic1912 » Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:24 pm

Hi Ken, that's what I was thinking. And something really big to put the winch on, I could imagine the weight of the bow pulling the surface vessel lower into the water than lifting the bow up any.
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Re: 2.5 mile chain and crane to examine bow damage?

Postby VW1956 » Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:11 pm

Hello Atlantic1912. Just thought that we had better not try this idea. Just imagine the weight of the bow of Titanic pulls the ship with the huge winch down into the water. That sinks then you got two and a half miles of chain dropping onto Titanic plus the winch and ship holding the winch dropping down. No, forget that idea. We'll try some thing else. Ken.
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Re: 2.5 mile chain and crane to examine bow damage?

Postby Greenwyvern » Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:09 am

The bow is buried deep in the mud. The suction would prevent raising the hull unless you excavated the area around the hull. If you have ever stepped in mud and lost a shoe pulling your foot free you understand.

The suction of the mud was discussed on one of the documentaries made back in the 90s I think.

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