Pat, I think your ignoring my question on whether the suicide were between Murdoch and Wilde,lol. But you have a right to ignore any question you wish too.
Denise, I just don't think, its seamanship to do such a thing like' committing suicide, while your passengers are going to perish. I see It like, the same aspects as, crew abandoning ship whilst leaving the passengers behind defending for themselves. I feel all main officers, should had done their duty right to the very end, just like captain Smith had done. It were their responsibility to do so.
Duly noted that 'seaman crew and officers' had a bad time after the disaster. Hichens Is great prove on this, I also believe passengers had a bad time too after the disaster.
Before the suicide committing by an officer, I had wondered If this went through his head? We had many berg warnings In our hands and pockets and chart board and in the radio room, why didn't we act pond It more seriously, than we did ?
You did say something about guilt, In your previous post?