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Ratio of men & women survived / death / board the ship

Postby Aly Jones » Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:52 pm

Children are Included as male and female passengers, no class. All men and women, Including all crew. Thank you.

I would like to know:

How many men and how many women survived exactly?

How many men and how many women that died amongst 1500?

Aboard 2020 passengers, what were the ratio of male passengers and what were the ratio of female passengers board the ship?
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Postby North 52 West » Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:37 pm

British Inquiry found:
338 Men saved/ 1329 Men Lost
316 Women saved/ 109 Women lost
52 Children lost/ 57 Children saved
* The inquiry failed to note 1st class child Lorriane Allison who was also lost
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Postby Aly Jones » Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:51 pm

Thanks Kaz.

* The inquiry failed to note 1st class child Lorriane Allison who was also lost

That sad. What makes It worst Is that the child had died and her name was forgotten.
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Postby pat toms » Sat May 12, 2012 7:02 pm

Aly Jones.We all think of death at some time or another,whether by drowning or plane crash,and most of us had a brush with death especially,while travelling.My wife said that she did not want to live to long in old age,my answer was to her I will try and delay it as long as possible.But those who died on the Titanic did not deserve it. Pat
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Postby Aly Jones » Mon May 14, 2012 12:21 pm

I certainly agree Pat.
But those who died on the Titanic did not deserve it.

The ratios of different life aboard' whom did survive more and whom perished more. Back then was not as equal as It Is today.
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Postby pat toms » Mon May 14, 2012 5:45 pm

Aly Jones,The class barrier was in full swing in Europe,and in Britain. Pat
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Postby JTITAN » Wed May 23, 2012 7:47 pm

I think that taking into account the 'women and children' hysteria, a great number of first and third class men managed to survive. Second class men and third class children was an absolute tragedy though.
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Postby Dave Gittins » Thu May 24, 2012 3:15 am

Here are figures from the latest research by Lester Mitcham and others. Being lazy. I've copied from an e-mail I sent a while back.

Regarding the stats for the women and children on Titanic. It's impossible to be precise but we know that 712 survived, of which 388 were women and children. That's 55.5%.

The picture is a bit different when we look at how many were actually loaded into boats. We don't know the exact number loaded but it was about 665, of which 387 were women and children. That's 58%. (Rhoda Abbott swam for it).

The crew totalled 891 and 212 survived, or 23.7%. Passengers totalled 1,317 and 500 survived, or 37.9%.

The legend is partly true but there wasn't as much chivalry as the press made out at the time. Lord Mersey noted the tendency of the crew to exaggerate the number of women in the boats.
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Postby Aly Jones » Thu May 24, 2012 4:58 am

Thanks a lot Dave, that were very helpful.
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Postby Lester » Thu May 24, 2012 12:24 pm

Hi Dave,

Hope you are keeping well.

I have 389 women and children saved. Not sure why
Regarding the stats for the women and children on Titanic. It's impossible to be precise ...........
There were 545 women and children on board of whom 389 survived and 156 perished.

Aly,
There were 795 adult male passengers of whom 131 survived.
There were 419 adult female passengers of whom 313 survived.
There were 103 children/infants of whom 56 survived.

Note: According to Titanic's Certificates for Clearance an adult passenger was aged “12 years and upwards”.
I have never divided the children/infants into male/female. - But a quick count gives me
30 male and 26 female children/infants saved, with
26 male and 21 female children/infants lost.

That gives a result of:
male passengers 851 of whom 161 survived and
female passengers 466 of whom 339 survived.

You posted:
Children are Included as male and female passengers, no class. All men and women, Including all crew.
I understand you to be saying that you want to count the children as men and women. I believe that will only cause confusion. You should have either male and female or men, women and children.
How many men and how many women survived exactly?
323 and 333 - As males and females – 353 and 359
How many men and how many women that died amongst 1500?
1,340 and 109 out of 1,496. - As males and females 1,366 and 130 out of 1,496.
Aboard 2020 passengers,
There were 2,208 passengers and crew on board. - As Dave advised 1,317 passengers and 891 crew.
what were the ratio of male passengers and what were the ratio of female passengers board the ship?
Passengers - males 38.54% females 21.11% plus crew 40.35% [of whom 23 = 1.04% were female].

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Postby Aly Jones » Thu May 24, 2012 11:39 pm

Thanks. That is perfect lester. All I need to know.

I think a 12 year old boy is too young to be class as a male adult. My cousin's son is turning 12 this year and he does not even look or come close of being classed as an adult.
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Postby Lester » Fri May 25, 2012 12:14 am

Hi Aly,

You are welcome.

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Postby Dave Gittins » Fri May 25, 2012 2:47 am

Remember that in those days a boy not much older than 12 could leave school and take up an apprenticeship. Some went to sea very young and were officers before they were 20. It was not much different for girls. They married young and often died young. The world has changed.
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Postby Aly Jones » Fri May 25, 2012 5:29 am

Remember that in those days a boy not much older than 12

That's exactly what they were' young boys, put into a man's job way to early. I perfectly understand what you are saying Dave. Boys today have a child hood, back then, there were no such thing as a childhood.
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Postby VW1956 » Sat May 26, 2012 9:00 pm

Hello. And in certain parts of the world boys and girls still have to work for a living and thus have lost some of there childhood. Ken.
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