Descendants

[MAB]

Ken, Aly's messages in this thread and elsewhere, which use "ancestor" and "descendant" interchangeably, and her saying here that she was "confused," demonstrate that she meant nothing of the sort. And anyway, our descendants don't become "our future ancestors."

[pat toms]

Mab,I must admit this has finally got the better of me about Ancestors it has become quite complicated. Pat

[dhaisman]

Hi,
Me and my son and two daughters from Australia, were on that cruise to remember my grandfather, Thomas Brown and my 3 children, their grandmother and my mother, Edith Haisman, (nee Brown ) It was indeed a voyage of a lifetime for all of us.

dhaisman

[Dave Gittins]

Welcome back David H!

[Aly Jones]

Wow David, Such a connection with Titanic. I'm guessing your family survived, otherwise we would not have you here.

[Dave Gittins]

In brief, David's mother was Edith Brown, aged 15 in 1912. She was in second class with her parents, Thomas and Elizabeth Brown. Elizabeth and Edith survived. Edith later married Frederick Haisman and David is one of their children. He became a very experienced seaman and sometimes give us some words of wisdom. Perhaps he could give us details of the books he has written. My own info is out of date.

[dhaisman]

Hi Everyone,
The cruise was something that me and my young family had always wanted to do after my mother did a similar memorial cruise in 1995 after an invitation by R.M.S. Titanic inc. Mother at that time was 99 years of age. She had fulfilled her life long wish of being able to go to a place to pay her last respects to her dear departed father who had drowned. Boarding the Balmoral that day in Southampton was an exciting day for my kids ( I say kids but they are all in their forties) and had come from Brisbane for this very special occasion. It was equally an exciting day for me coupled with the experience of sailing on another Balmoral. My first ship I joined in 1953 was also by the same name and of 608 tons, was built by John I Thorneycroft here in Southampton for the Isle of Wight service and south coast excursion work along with the tendering of ocean liners in the Cowes Roads.
Fred Olsen lines looked after their passengers well but of course had no control over the weather which was typically North Atlantic. The ship behaved well in the gales and storm force winds for a cruise ship but these voyages across the pond are better suited for liners which are built for any weather anywhere in the world. The Balmoral was more suited for the mediterranean and better climes but she had been chosen for this charter perhaps as the only one in the fleet that could carry that number of passengers. Interesting to note that well over 300 passengers were from Australia so there was quite a bit of interest there.
Over the wreck site it was a solemn affair and the weather once again was almost identical to that fateful night back in 1912 although nowhere as cold but cold enough for those of us attending that service on the stern of the Balmoral. The night was very dark with the horizon hardly visible and I hoped that many of the lookout critics onboard that night got an idea of just what it must have been for Titanic's lookouts that night back in 1912.
A journal was published onboard as was a DVD and sold to passengers covering the whole voyage with many of those on board featured but although me and my children were perhaps the closest relatives on board, you wont find us in the journal or the DVD which was a disappointing outcome of the voyage for the memory of their grandmother which my kids found very hard to understand.
dhaisman

[VW1956]

Hello dhaisman. Thank you for posting some of your memories on this site. It is a privilege having decendents of the Titanic disaster post on here and to have someone still able to use the same name makes it kind of even better. Sorry to hear you and your family did not make the final edit of the dvd but then they are just film makers. I'm sure had they had any interest in Titanic they would have been only too pleased to have members of the Haisman family in there. Ken.

[dhaisman]

Hi VW1956
Your quite right of course but like all Dads seeing their kids flying back to Oz, I just wanted them to have something special to show their own children when they got back however, it was an experience they will never forget.
dhaisman

[Aly Jones]

HI. Sorry, I totally missed this thread.

How did your family make it over too Australia? your mother was English? traveling on Titanic to America for a holiday or American traveling back to America ? Officer's Lowes grandson lives here too in Australia.

Did your mother speak about the disaster to you,she was at the age of remembering, though, I would understand why If she did not. Many never liked speaking about that horrible night, such as Harold MacBride and many more.

I had seen documentaries on telly and I recall your mother was interviewed with your mother and her siblings and grandparents picture in the background.

[boonelee]

I'm not a direct descendent of any Titanic survivors or victims but Frederick Hoyt and William Fisher Hoyt are my distant cousins. William is my 7th cousin and I don't know what Frederick is to me but he and William were like second cousins or something like that. Also my great grandparents Louis and Mary Boone were supposed to have something shipped to them from Belgium on the Titanic but for whatever reason whatever they were expecting wasn't on the Titanic...luckily!

[Anna S]

Hello boonelee,
That is very interesting about your distant cousins and your great grandparents. I myself have no Titanic relatives so even having distant cousins who were on board seems really awesome!!

[Aly Jones]

What Anna said, very awesome and interesting, any blood relations is a relation of some sort. How did you come across that your distant relatives were aboard Titanic?

[hichensancestor]

Hi Aly

Just found out recently that my Dad's first cousin's grandfather James Bolger was on the English Trader with Robert Hichens in 1941 and he was the man who was hit by the hatch on the head and died and his body was taken off the ship at Greenock in Scotland. Small world.

[VW1956]

Hello Sally. So glad your still looking in. I am still waiting for a picture of Roberts resting place. Ken.