100th Anniversary. How do you plan to commemorate it?

[Aly Jones]

There would be very many problems with a Titanic II. First of all, how would you keep all these people from the dangerous tip of the bow imitating Jack and Rose?

The bow and bridge would be totally closed off, just like modern ships are design. But ,It would be awesome, If they never closed off the bow and bridge and we get to explore the unknown.

[Titanic_Malaysia]

Well Aly, I guess our friend Bob the Shipbuilder will know how it's like to work on a ship and explore areas like the bow and even engine room of the vessel... Still, it would have been nice to be able to head to the Titanic II's bow and relive the Jack + Rose "I'm Flying" scene... Of course I don't blame the ship operators for closing that area to the public, as it's for crew only...

[VW1956]

Hello. If the Titanic11 does get built then the bow should be designed so that passengers could get right up front and shout "I'm king of the world". Even if it meant having a second deck above the working deck. I just know if they did that there would be a queue of people all day long . Ken.

[Aly Jones]

I agree! We want to experience what Titanic passengers experience. It's no fun when you can't perv on officers because the whole bridge and bow Is closed off. The stern Is open but that kind of boring,there is no officers down there.

Titanic passengers came In contact with the officers on a daily basics and would had seen so many officers, but today, we don't see any officers for the whole trip.

[joshua]

All in all I wish them the worst of luck in building Titanic II. The Titanic is over commercialized already. It's a tragedy, not a circus or theme park. Because this was 100 years ago, the fact 1,500 people died horribly is something that has little affect on people. It needs to stay at the bottom of the ocean, not people imitating the cheesey phrases or sappy moments from the movie. It ought to be treated with reverence and not have dollar signs for people's wallets.

[Aly Jones]

I did not want to imitate cheesy or sappy phrases from a movie, I just want to see another replica built.

[lmtitanic]

I truly believe in the story concerning the Titanic 2 .
Halomonas titanicae, a bacteria that destroys the body Titanic, for with it there is no vaccine, once infected and really suffer from the disease called Morbus Titanicus.

[Captain ACS]

Not a good idea to make a 2. Cmon, even Millvina Dean rejected the idea.

[Aly Jones]

You have to admitt that it would be fascinating to watch titanic come back to life again. I had heard that the 1st class dinning room is going to be a replica aswell as other rooms. I think it's going to be a mixture of the new and old, how wonderful.

[shipbuilder]

The last two passenger liners that I sailed in between 1979 and 1992 were practically unrestricted as far as the passengers went. If they wanted to go up to the bow at sea, they could do as long as the weather was OK. If they wanted to wander around the bridge at sea, they could do, and talk with the officer of the watch. If they wanted to visit the engineroom, the chief engineer would oblige on request. They could visit officers in their cabins and officers could visit them in theirs. It was all rather wonderful, but the were very small ships, about 300 feet long, the first one being about 3,000 tons (76 passangers) and the 2nd one 6,000 tons (132 passengers) on the run between Avonmouth (Bristol) and Cape Town via Tenerife, Ascension Island and St. Helena Island!
We had regular passengers that came back year after year and who said they would never sail in a large passenger ship again, because they preferred the comfortable intimacy of the microscopic RMS ST. HELENA! Passengers would never be allowed that freedom in modern giants!
It makes me laugh when I hear people say the TITANIC is too small at 46,329 gross tons I found the old RMS WINDSOR CASTLE mind boggling in its sheer size when I first joined - a mere 37,640 gross tons!

The proposed replica is already drifting away from what the original was like. The have deceided to build it with flat hull, to save money. The original had a sheer (a curve along the hull). Also, it is to have an extra deck with modern lifeboats, so already it will look only superficially like the original!

Bob

[Aly Jones]

If they wanted to go up to the bow at sea, they could do as long as the weather was OK. If they wanted to wander around the bridge at sea, they could do, and talk with the officer of the watch.

I believe on Titanic this was permitted too. I wish this was permitted on modern ocean cruise liners.

The proposed replica is already drifting away from what the original was like. The have deceided to build it with flat hull, to save money. The original had a sheer (a curve along the hull). Also, it is to have an extra deck with modern lifeboats, so already it will look only superficially like the original!

I have to disagree with you here, Bob. Of course the engine room and lifeboats going to be modern, the Titanic style way is too out dated and not permitted. She still going to have 4 funnels, and a shell that looks like the original. But I had read that the Titanic 2 bow is going to be slanted with a bow counter weight (like the long stick that the Queen Mary bow has). The Titanic 2 is going to be the exactly the same size as the original Titanic and Titanic 2 will have the same separation of classes and same layout as the original Titanic.

[shipbuilder]

I really doubt that passengers would be allowed to wander up to the TITANICs bridge at will, but of course, I don't really know!
In Cunard, even up to the 1960s, junior officers were not encouraged to associate with passengers either.

So, there is to be a sloping bow now! Yet another diversion from the original! The "shell" as you call it, will not look the same, because they plan to make it flat. I have never heard of a "bow counterweight" unless you are talking about a bulbous bow that is under water. But it is not a "counterweight" it is there to make the ship move along with a better water flow!

How do you know what speed the other ships on the North Atlantic were making on that night? Lightoller was not a senior officer by any means - a 2nd officer (2nd mate) is part way between junior and senior in rank. On modern ships, a 2nd officer has two gold rings on his sleeves, on the TITANIC, Lightoller only had one! A responsible position, of course, but certainly not high ranking!

Bob

[Aly Jones]

I really doubt that passengers would be allowed to wander up to the TITANICs bridge at will, but of course, I don't really know!

I don't know either. But I am gathering passengers could had done so since Titanics bridge was totally open for anyone to wonder up to. Modern ships bows and bridges are totally closed off from passengers, this makes me believe Titanic's bridge could be assessable to anyone?

[shipbuilder]

Things were different only a few years ago. Large passenger liners did not allow passengers onto the bridge normally, only in organised visits. It is most unlikely that they would even get organised bridge visits at all in 1912. Neither would they be allowed to wander up to the bows. The forward section was for the crew. There were gates preventing access to the bridge, although you could either climb over them (rail height only) or open them if you were a mind to. Similar divisions between the classes, on deck - gates.

Regarding the possible looks of the replica. Here are two simple drawings, not to scale and not very good. But from what I have heard, the bottom one is a rough outline of what the proposed replica will look like in the unlikely event that it is built. Flat hull with sloping bow. An extra deck beneath the original boat deck with a row of orange coloured lifeboats along it. I can foresee the next "compromise," when someone decides that a modern steering gear would not fit easily into a counter stern, so they will settle for a flat transom (This is only a guess on my part).

The upper drawing shows what is meant by "sheer" it is the curve of the hull along the length.

I am not arguing for the sake of it, I can just see it creeping away from the original design

Bob

[VW1956]

Hello Bob. Where as it is unpractical to allow passengers onto the bridge for safety reasons. I guess it would be possible as there would be a need for it to have a walkway running behind the bridge with no direct access to the bridge as there would be either glass or plastic walls to the ceiling. You go through one side, look at the bridge and the crew working away, then off the other side. Just an idea. Ken.