Titanic Breaking In Two

[Aly Jones]

Hello Kristen,

That was poor old officer Murdoch. He's family were not happy with Cameron after the movie.

I have read that no bodies were recovered with gunshot wounds.

The pistols were on the ship to keep trouble makers In line during the voyage. I hardly call (or think) passengers on a sinking ship were (are) classed as trouble makers. I really doubt the crew took the law In to there hands that killed random passengers and themselves. Captain Smith and Officer Lowe had pistol rumor stories too!

As for J.Cameron could had gotten more things right---

The 1997 movie,James Cameron movie predicts Titanic breaking after the 3rd funnel (close to the 4th funnel) I always thought that was odd. Because the wreck shows It Is two equal parts, not one bigger than the other, and how many times J. Cameron went down to the wreck? and he got that wrong!!!!!!

[Titanic_Malaysia]

Hey Aly and Kristen, looks like Cameron has got the whole ship-breaking bit wrong in the movie... The team at History Channel, those guys who presented "Titanic: Secrets Revealed", got it right when they mentioned that the ship broke at a point right at the middle, i.e. between the second and third funnels... Of course as we all know, during the descent, the stern gradually pancaked before crashing with a huge thump at the bottom... This explains why the stern section looks so disjointed and in awful shape, compared with the more intact bow area...

[pat toms]

shameless angels,I think some of your comments about Mr Cameron ring a bell with me,it is interesting that he like a lot of others have made a good living and become famous on the back of this Titanic Disaster,but at the same time have given entertainment,opposing this was George Tulloch,who actually got some of the hull lifted,and probably went a long way to finding other things,he was a member of our (S.U.T.S) for a couple of years until he was hi-jacked from the society by people who may remain nameless at the moment.However he did have the good sense to know that people like me who had lost relative on the Big T,were worth knowing I met him 3 times when he came over here to N.Ireland. Pat

[VW1956]

Hello Aaron2010. Where does those pictures of Ruth Becker come from? I have never seen those before.

Hello ShamelessAngels. Do you really "despise" James Cameron? Ken.

[ShamelessAngels]

Hello ShamelessAngels. Do you really "despise" James Cameron? Ken.

I absolutely do because of the things I have read. I read that while diving to Titanic, he forced a submersible through the window to the Turkish baths and broke the frame and that he also broke a mast. I also do not feel that he should even be down there as he is a filmmaker, not a marine scientist. I feel like he has overstepped his bounds. In addition to this, it really annoys me that the family of the crew member J. Dawson has to constantly clean off his grave of teddy bears, cards, and letters from people who think it's Jack. I feel like if Cameron had done a little more research before naming his character, he might not have caused a Titanic family so much distress, and lastly, it bothers me that there are so many people who do not care one little bit about the true deaths and the true tragedy because they are too concerned with Jack and Rose. I think Cameron could have had an equally beautiful love story had he used Mr. Isador and Mrs. Ida Straus. He could have even had Leo and Kate play them in their younger days and it would have been true to life. If any of these things are incorrect, please inform me and I may change my opinion of the man, but as it stands, this is unfortunately how I feel.

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shameless angels,Yes once again Cameron who I have stated before I tried to contact about a true story of one of the victims of Titanic I wanted to tell him before the film was finished about my story and other reports that my grandmother got from survivors,but once again could not they were ,or he and his cronies did not want to know,or were not interested,however I must say that unlike the Ship the film was a success,did the Ship break apart,one witness account which was printed in various papers etc said that it was observed,that before the ship went down the ship broke in half,but of course the media are the ones who put out all the stories and if it is not in the media then it never happened did it.I did enjoy the film and after all it was just a film mainly about a love story,and not a type of historical film,so I would say artistic liscense was the order of the day.Very different from a night to remember which was more like a documentary. Pat.

[Aaron2010]

The pictures of Ruth Becker come from the TV documentary 'Titanic - Case Closed'. You can watch it here:





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Aaron 2010,Unfortunately I cannot get the you tube for some reason but obviously you have got the evidence Congrats. Pat

[Ioannis Georgiou]

Hello ShamelessAngels. Do you really "despise" James Cameron? Ken.

I absolutely do because of the things I have read. I read that while diving to Titanic, he forced a submersible through the window to the Turkish baths and broke the frame and that he also broke a mast.

Where did you read that nonsense?

The Turkish baths are on F Deck and have no window were a "submersible" could go though it. Besides it was an ROV which was small enough to go though the damaged windows on B Deck.
The mast was already broken before that expedition which had nothing to do with Cameron.

I would say to look first what is true before making such false claimes. (If you like Cameron or not that is another matter.)

In addition to this, it really annoys me that the family of the crew member J. Dawson has to constantly clean off his grave of teddy bears, cards, and letters from people who think it's Jack. I feel like if Cameron had done a little more research before naming his character, he might not have caused a Titanic family so much distress, and lastly, it bothers me that there are so many people who do not care one little bit about the true deaths and the true tragedy because they are too concerned with Jack and Rose.

Were do you have that from? I was in Halifax visiting the graves, and was told there by the local people that some did let visitors believe that it is J. Dawson from the movie.

[Aly Jones]

Hello all,

Shamelesssngeles isn't making the Turkish bath story up. Though she only heard the story I had seen the exact doco when Cameron enters the Turkish baths. Camerons went through a door opening. The sub did knabout bout. As for the mask and j dawsond headstone, I donno.

[ShamelessAngels]

Hello all,

Shamelesssngeles isn't making the Turkish bath story up. Though she only heard the story I had seen the exact doco when Cameron enters the Turkish baths. Camerons went through a door opening. The sub did knabout bout. As for the mask and j dawsond headstone, I donno.

Thank you. I must say I didn't appreciate being told my opinion was nonsense, especially when I offered plenty of room in my statement for someone to offer evidence and prove me wrong. I am not a person who has a problem with being wrong. I just prefer it if the person who says so has something to back that opinion up so that I can see where I am mistaken and correct myself. I can be very passionate about my opinions and I am strong-willed by nature, but it is never my intention to offend anyone on this forum. I just thought I would make that clear.

[Ioannis Georgiou]

Shamelesssngeles isn't making the Turkish bath story up. Though she only heard the story I had seen the exact doco when Cameron enters the Turkish baths. Camerons went through a door opening. The sub did knabout bout.

Aly, here you can see how Cameron got into the Turkish bath. No window was broken, no door damaged!
Skip to 2:50 to see the door and at 2:57 you can see the "missing wall" directly beside the door and this is how he really got inside! I would be very careful with things like the above of people hear or read somewhere!

[Ioannis Georgiou]

[Aly Jones]

Hello IG,

That's what I remember, that's the one. I do have a question. Why do we see the rustles being disturbed? My explanation Is that the Mini robot hits the ships side wall and It does not settle down until the robot gets Inside the ship.

[Ioannis Georgiou]

Hi Aly,

sorry I did not get (understand) your question. Are you asking about the rusticles or the sediment inside the ship?