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It's not Titanic.

Postby VW1956 » Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:04 am

Hello. I posted this just before it all went missing on the old forum. But I saw it again yesterday and it's just amazing. In a chain of bookshops called "The Works" they are selling a book and cd (or dvd) all nicely packaged to resemble the old 331/3 records that us old'ens know about. The title of this set is "Titanic" and covering the whole of the front of this set is a very nice picture of a ship but it is not Titanic but Olympic. I just cant understand why when it is so well known what the differences are between the three sisters that these mistakes are still made. Ken.
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Re: It's not Titanic.

Postby Rose » Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:25 am

We have one of those shop's near us, will have to have a look. Thanks Ken.
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Re: It's not Titanic.

Postby Matuatay » Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:35 am

It happens all the time. This sounds more like a careless mistake since so many good shots of the Titanic's exterior are available. Somebody probably just slapped the first picture resembling Titanic on there and said "close enough for government work!"

Like I said in another thread, the majority of buyer's are likely not as passionate about Titanic as those of us around here and either choose to overlook this error or don't even notice it to begin with.
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Re: It's not Titanic.

Postby Dave Gittins » Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:42 am

It goes on all the time. It may be partly a matter of copyright. Many of the best photos of Titanic are still copyright, thanks to the 70 year rule.

On the other hand, some awful mistakes creep in. Proof reading seems to be lost art. I'm about to write a review of a fairly good book that has some good information, but it also has Harold Bride earning £48 per month.

Watch the rubbish pour out of the presses as April 2012 draws nearer.
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Re: It's not Titanic.

Postby pat toms » Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:08 pm

I agree that is correct about rubbish pouring out as it has poured out all the time directly the titanic sunk,there was a story in the press all people saved on titanic.
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Re: It's not Titanic.

Postby VW1956 » Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:06 pm

Hello Pat. To be fair about the news story that all had survived on the Titanic it was just a day or so after the event. Communications back in those days was a lot slower to get the actual facts quickly. I think it was such a big story that certain press agencies wanted to get the story out first. Ken.
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Re: It's not Titanic.

Postby VW1956 » Fri Oct 28, 2011 9:21 pm

Hello. Saw this in "The Works" today and they have changed the picture on the front. It is now a picture of Titanic. It also says "Special centenary edition". Ken.
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Re: It's not Titanic.

Postby SeaTravel » Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:29 am

Hello Ken, they still have some of this DVD book set so I bought one- it didn't say centenary on mine so not sure if the ship on the front is Titanic or Olympic- if I don't see the ship's name I do find it hard to tell the two apart as they were so alike. How do you tell them apart?
I watched the DVD earlier- very good indeed- done with great respect; the scenes of the submarine going into Titanic are very interesting and moving as was the re constructed scenes of passengers and their experiences- the Japanese passenger's account very much so- it was said that he became a recluse, seemingly he was so affected by that night.
I got the The Story of the Titanic book in the case which has the facsimilies and Lost Voices from The Titanic also.
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Re: It's not Titanic.

Postby Dave Gittins » Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:56 am

The most obvious difference is that on Titanic the forward end of the promenade on A deck was enclosed. Some call this the Ismay screen, though it's not clear just why it was fitted or if Ismay ordered it.

Beveridge and Hall list more than 100 other differences, many very minor and hard to spot. One of the more obvious is that on Titanic the aft docking bridge ends were outside of the line of the hull, for the convenience of the man using the sounding lead. On Olympic the ends were flush with the hull and the leadsman had to rig a portable platform whenever he was needed.
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Re: It's not Titanic.

Postby Steve Hall » Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:54 am

:? There is hundreds of differences externally alone. We just couldn't be bothered detailing them when we did the book.
We have an updated book out in a few months. There will be more in that.

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Re: It's not Titanic.

Postby kevin randall » Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:57 pm

pat toms wrote:I agree that is correct about rubbish pouring out as it has poured out all the time directly the titanic sunk,there was a story in the press all people saved on titanic.

wasn't there also a story that Titanic was being towed?
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Re: It's not Titanic.

Postby kevin randall » Sat Nov 05, 2011 12:00 am

Dave Gittins wrote:
Watch the rubbish pour out of the presses as April 2012 draws nearer.

BINGO!
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Re: It's not Titanic.

Postby SeaTravel » Sat Nov 05, 2011 12:56 am

Dave Gittins wrote:The most obvious difference is that on Titanic the forward end of the promenade on A deck was enclosed. Some call this the Ismay screen, though it's not clear just why it was fitted or if Ismay ordered it.

Beveridge and Hall list more than 100 other differences, many very minor and hard to spot. One of the more obvious is that on Titanic the aft docking bridge ends were outside of the line of the hull, for the convenience of the man using the sounding lead. On Olympic the ends were flush with the hull and the leadsman had to rig a portable platform whenever he was needed.


Thanks Dave- I will have to study many pictures of the ships for comparison and the ship diagrams listing the features!
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Re: It's not Titanic.

Postby Dave Gittins » Sat Nov 05, 2011 2:49 am

Kevin, you are correct. On the morning of 15 April it was reported that Titanic was being towed to safety, generally by Virginian. This may have come from confused reports of Deutschland being towed by Asian. There were reports of ships 'standing by' Titanic, but they were only standing by for radio messages. It was a total cat's breakfast.
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Re: It's not Titanic.

Postby VW1956 » Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:45 pm

Hello Dave. Cant believe I'm answering some thing you apparently didn't know. I read that the screens on "A" deck were fitted because there were many complaints of passengers on board Olympic getting sea spray on them whilst promanading on "A" deck. Ken.
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