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A documentary called: Why they sunk the Titanic

Postby TitanicNut86 » Sat Oct 29, 2011 4:59 am

This is a documentary that a friend brought to my attention. It has raised many questions that are yet to be brainstormed which I have posted some of those questions down below. I am very unsure what to think and I am yet to do some investigating in to this for my self. However I do wonder what you good people here on this wonderful site think of it.

Thanks for your time.


Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II-JVcaW ... re=related

Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QULhLgsD ... re=related

Part 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np_2MMJK ... re=related

Part 4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDxcjVXG ... re=related

Part 5:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0ybLmJU ... re=related

Part 6:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l22oMFER ... re=related


Question 1:
Was it really a conspiracy?

Question 2:
Were the images photoshopped?

Question 3:
Is this shenanigans?

Question 4:
If this was true.. When DID Fredrick Fleet really see the ice berg?

And a few more to come from me should any arise?


Something not on subject but is fun to watch :) I guess you could call this the fortune cookie of the post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3oiRquY ... re=related
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Re: A documentary called: Why they sunk the Titanic

Postby kevin randall » Sat Oct 29, 2011 4:43 pm

Thanks,rumor has it that it has a few mistakes but I will check it out if not for the enjoyment value,I seen that you also posted it on the TRMA and art and Jonathan didn't like it:
http://titanic-model.com/dc/dcboard.php ... &mode=full
and Art locked the thread. Regards,Kevin
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Re: A documentary called: Why they sunk the Titanic

Postby MAB » Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:48 pm

TitanicNut86 wrote:I do wonder what you good people here on this wonderful site think of it.
Watching it is marginally less painful than root canal after the anesthetic wears off. Maybe.
kevin randall wrote:rumor has it that it has a few mistakes
Oh, it's not just "rumor" and it's not just "a few."
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Re: A documentary called: Why they sunk the Titanic

Postby turricaned » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:24 pm

The shortest description of the conspiracy theories that I can think of while retaining the required degree of decorum is that they are a pustulent, foetid, steaming pile of cow dung.

Two salient points support this judgement. Firstly, still visible on the propellers of the stern section at the bottom of the Atlantic is the number 401 cut into the metal. 401 was Titanic's hull number (40909 was bollocks too) and Olympic's was 400. There was nowhere near enough time to swap and rebalance both sets of propellers in the time they had to put Olympic back into service. Secondly, the 1987 IFREMER expedition took a soft wire brush to the encrusted corrosion around the nameplate area on the port side of the hull and revealed the letters "T - I - T - A - N- I - C" physically cut into the plates (see the Expedition Titanic website for the cleaned-up footage). Even if they had removed and swapped the props, there is no way they could physically have swapped the nameplates without removing the fo'c'sle from both liners, de-riveting or cutting the plates away, re-riveting the plates and replacing the fo'c'sle - for which - again - there wasn't even remotely enough time.

That's just for starters - Titanic's fitting out was proceeding apace by the time Olympic arrived in Belfast for repairs and the deck layout was already significantly different between the two sisters. The damage sustained by Olympic, while severe in terms of raw expense, would have been chicken feed in a relative sense compared to the cost of the work these idiots are claiming was carried out, and would certainly not have been enough for Olympic to have been considered a write-off. Remember that in 1907, the White Star approved the salvage of the Suevic by effectively dynamiting the entire bow section and replacing it - this was a far less profitable ship than Olympic, and yet even a repair of that magnitude was considered preferable to writing her off. The Olympic herself received an entirely new stern frame late in her career - the cost of which would have dwarfed the repairs carried out in 1912. Any or all of these documented historical facts should stop any conspiracy theorist in their tracks, but the truth is that conspiracy theorists are almost always more interested in making a name for themselves to propagate or sell their output than any sense of getting to the truth.
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Re: A documentary called: Why they sunk the Titanic

Postby TitanicNut86 » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:29 pm

Yeah. I was only trying to contribute something for discussion and watch them even as rivet counters tear and pick the documentary a part.
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Re: A documentary called: Why they sunk the Titanic

Postby TitanicNut86 » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:36 pm

turricaned wrote: Secondly, the 1987 IFREMER expedition took a soft wire brush to the encrusted corrosion around the nameplate area on the port side of the hull and revealed the letters "T - I - T - A - N- I - C" physically cut into the plates (see the Expedition Titanic website for the cleaned-up footage).


I don't know if this is a PEBCAC moment on me but I cannot find it.
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Re: A documentary called: Why they sunk the Titanic

Postby turricaned » Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:04 am

Hi,

Try this link:

http://www.rmstitanic.net/expedition/#/ ... -and-video

Failing that, navigate to the main site, click "Explore The Titanic", skip the animation, them click the "Photo and Video" link in the bottom left.
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Re: A documentary called: Why they sunk the Titanic

Postby kevin randall » Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:34 pm

MAB,you are right and yes about Titanic's name etched in the hull, I've seen video of the port side where one can clearly see each letter spelling out TITANIC and yes you are correct that Titanic was 401 and Olympic was 400 and that is most certainly the Titanic at the wreck site and NOT the Olympic contrary to the bogus looney switching theories . Regards,Kevin
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Re: A documentary called: Why they sunk the Titanic

Postby VW1956 » Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:04 pm

Hello Turricaned. I think we all know that the whole conspiricy thing keeps going so that more more heated discussions can take place. One thing you did get wrong though. What you should have written was "40909 was rubbish to". Ken.
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Re: A documentary called: Why they sunk the Titanic

Postby TitanicNut86 » Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:40 am

turricaned wrote:Hi,

Try this link:

http://www.rmstitanic.net/expedition/#/ ... -and-video

Failing that, navigate to the main site, click "Explore The Titanic", skip the animation, them click the "Photo and Video" link in the bottom left.


Thanks saw it and I am very satisfied. Now I know where to go to show my friend the evidence.

Thanks much :)

Lots of love
Alex
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Re: A documentary called: Why they sunk the Titanic

Postby Dave Gittins » Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:02 am

You don't have to dive 4000 metres to prove the switch story is rubbish. Just check out the many parts of Olympic that survive in Britain. They are marked with Olympic's yard number, 400.
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Re: A documentary called: Why they sunk the Titanic

Postby VW1956 » Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:27 pm

Hello. Thanks for posting this link. I have been wanting to watch that for quite a while. It's now in my favorites list. Ken.
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Re: A documentary called: Why they sunk the Titanic

Postby turricaned » Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:12 pm

If you've got some time to kill, Mark Chirnside (a veritable master of the subject) has posted his dissertation online here:

http://www.markchirnside.co.uk/pdfs/Con ... tation.pdf

with a bundle of supporting material here:

http://www.markchirnside.co.uk/TitanicC ... ssier.html
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Titanic - Alternate Theories

Postby SAARNO » Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:12 pm

Has anyone seen a documentary called 'Why they sunk the Titanic? I was sent a link on YouTube. Interesting changeling theory..
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Re: A documentary called: Why they sunk the Titanic

Postby North 52 West » Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:21 am

I rather enjoyed watching this last night while hubby was in a desprate fight with "man flu" ....best laugh I've had in ages! I was particualry fond of the "take me serously because I'm standing in a Libary grabbing random books" approach....I've always had a great fondness for the, as I like to call them "THEY corperation" who are resposible for anything bad that ever happens anywhere! "THEY corperation" ae, as far as I can work out mysterious & not to be toyed with. "THEY" do these terrible things simply because "THEY" can!!!!n run away everybody!!!!
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