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Man scratched out of picture.

Postby VW1956 » Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:37 pm

Hello. I just noticed that in the famous picture ( I say famous as the picture is in most books) of the men standing on the starboard propellor shaft you can if you look closely see that a worker has been scratched out of the picture. I just noticed today that whoever he was his hand is still clearly visible. Big mystery as to why he was removed from the picture. Ken.
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Re: Man scratched out of picture.

Postby Tom.Insley » Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:24 am

Could you post said picture (or a link thereto) so we can all see it? :)
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Re: Man scratched out of picture.

Postby VW1956 » Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:01 am

Hello Tom. Sorry I took so long. I dont know how to make a mark on the picture to show where the rubbed out man is. But when you do see him you can see his hand has not been rubbed out. Very strange and who was he and why was he rubbed out? A real mystery. The rubbed out man is about five sixths the way along the picture and is about 6 feet behind the man standing with his arm over the prop. Ken.
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Re: Man scratched out of picture.

Postby claire » Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:39 am

Could you tell me which picture are you mention? Iam so curious about it. :D :D
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Re: Man scratched out of picture.

Postby Andrew Clarkson » Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:09 am

All,

Try now, I've highlighted the 'invisible man' in question!
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Re: Man scratched out of picture.

Postby VW1956 » Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:48 pm

Hello Andrew. Thanks for putting that circle in the picture. Ken.
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Re: Man scratched out of picture.

Postby Atlantic1912 » Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:58 pm

Hi Ken. I remember noticing the same thing when I first saw that photo a long time ago, I thought it strange.

Probably some mundane reason behind it (the man moved and blurred the photo), but now 100 years later when we have learned to look closely at any photo of Titanic and her sisters the idea of an 'erased' man and the reasons behind it grab the mind. The most obvious besides 'why' is 'who' was this man?
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Re: Man scratched out of picture.

Postby VW1956 » Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:18 am

Hello Atlantic1912. There was a thread on the old forum asking "who and why" this rubbed out man was. I have no idea who he was but had a couple of reasons why. One was that maybe he had annoyed the photographer in some way and so the photographer had him got rid of. Another reason I thought a possibility was that the "rubbed out man" was a bit of a trouble maker and so it was Harland and Wolff who had him rubbed out. The reason you just gave in that he moved although looking at where he is standing with no ties for safety I would have thought if there was any movement it would have been downwards. Ken.
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Re: Man scratched out of picture.

Postby Andrew Clarkson » Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:02 am

I believe another reason put forward for his omission from the image was to better portray the size of the propellor shafts.
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Re: Man scratched out of picture.

Postby Aly Jones » Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:50 pm

Just my personal opinion. To me' it looks like its the shadow of the guy standing left of the shadow. The shadow mimics that of the guy standing to the left.
Or maybe it was just the camera' 1912 and all?
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Re: Man scratched out of picture.

Postby Atlantic1912 » Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:06 pm

I think the man was in front of the shaft. You can see how it looks touched up over the area of the wooden timbers right below the shaft, and the shaft in that area also looks 'touched up'.
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Re: Man scratched out of picture.

Postby Aly Jones » Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:43 pm

HI again, I don't think the techology in 1911/12 to reformat the photograph by removal of a man.
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Re: Man scratched out of picture.

Postby Andrew Clarkson » Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:06 pm

Aly Jones wrote:HI again, I don't think the techology in 1911/12 to reformat the photograph by removal of a man.


Think about the trouble that was taken to try to scratch out the name of the tug in the film clip of Olympic in New York, shortly after Titanic's sinking.
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Re: Man scratched out of picture.

Postby Aly Jones » Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:20 pm

Was that done shortly after titanic? I thought it was done much later. Everybody knew titanic never made it to New York not even once.so why would they do that for? that's what I had always thought about the scrubbing out the name of the tug boat' nothing to do with going against you.

the techoghy exsisted to rub out certain objects in 1911/12 than I'm
Amazed and they were much more ahead in technoghy than I thought they were.

One thing for certain' there's were a man there no doubt about that.
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Re: Man scratched out of picture.

Postby Atlantic1912 » Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:36 pm

I think the removal of the tugs name was done by either scratching it off the negative frame by frame, or by applying a paint of sorts on each frame. A very time consuming process.
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